Press J to jump to the feed. - Estrogen patch 14 days, prio, Hi all, Team Purple. I do have DOR and Endo, Amh 0.69. afc and fish comparable to yours or slightly worse. Beta3 9/14: 1224! Five days before her last BCP, she will start Lupron. Short protocol for low responders We have discussed GnRH agonists as a suitable treatment for low responders. Intrauterine Insemination (IUI) improves the processes involved in natural sexual intercourse to help you conceive without undertaking IVF. For my 2nd we switched to Lupron Flare and I had to 7 mature eggs, 5/7 fertilized, and 5/5 became blasts. Please specify a reason for deleting this reply from the community. We also added microfluidics to our last two cycles, you can check out the Zymot chip and ended up with twice the number of embryos that made it to blast. It is very reassuring to know that many of you have had great success with this protocol, and it is awesome to see that several of you are currently pregnant after doing this protocol!! Thanks! The use of Lupron to trigger egg maturation over the past 4-5 years has gained popularity when given in a single higher dose (4mg) with aggressive supplementation of estrogen and progesterone following the egg retrieval. (The use of generic Lupron is acceptable.) I had 4 but 3 stopped growing around day 6 so they weren't frozen. They are concerned about egg quality. Thanks in advance! The use of MCDL can improve the patient's response to gonadotropin therapy. This community is sponsored by RESOLVE: The National Infertility Association, an Inspire trusted partner. hi, I did it at age 38. Has anybody over 38-40 with DOR tried lupron flare and had success? 5DT. Or tips on handling side effects? I wrote a post yesterday before I even read up on this type of protocol. After the 6th negative pregnancy test, they did a "pregnancy loss" bloodwork panel. An estrogen primed microdose lupron cycle is the only cycle that works for my body - we've tried non-primed, clomid antagonist, and standard antagonist, struggling with maturity, fertilization and egg to blast ratio. However other had mature egg and we did Icsi by it didn't grow from there. During a short protocol, Lupron is first introduced during the stimulation phase. . Each month is different and that 4 eggs could have been just an off month and not a predictor of your future cycles. Lupron flare was a winner for me, for sure. does your doctor use a medication called "orlissa" ? In order to retrieve the eggs before they ovulate spontaneously, the patient is taken into the operating room and the eggs are removed non-surgically approximately 36 hours following hCG administration. It's a Girl, EDD April 7, 2014. Er 3- 2019 - follistim 450 iu + menopur 150 iu , bcp priming - 6 mature eggs- 2 day 5 blasts but both abnormal. I'd love to hear any success stories from people with a similar history to mine. -DOR diagnosis. We've been trying for 3 years. This is a community for those who have gotten pregnant after a struggle with infertility. In patients with low egg reserve, this combination may exert . 08/20 - Injection #2 I've done microdose lupron flare protocol for the past two IVF cycles and the return has been CONSIDERABLY better than IVF#1 (antagonist protocol, 4 eggs retrieved, I cried). Jo, have you heard of the estrogen priming protocol? It is quality that matters. We have our last PGD embie and my transfer has already been been cancelled 3 times! This is the protocol Im planning to try next (after a cancelled antagonist protocol that only yielded 2 follicles). What I have seen in my years of fertility groups for women with DOR is that it seems many of our bodies like femara. 0000017388 00000 n END MENTS. Please whitelist our site to get all the best deals and offers from our partners. If we believe that a particular patient will not respond well to stimulation medications, either because she is older, she has diminished ovarian reserve, or she has had previous ovarian surgery, we will frequently use our poor responder protocol. Please select a reason for escalating this post to the WTE moderators: Connect with our community members by starting a discussion. Group Leaders arent expected to spend any additional time in the community, and are not held to a set schedule. Thanks! Stimulation Day 1 You will start gonadotropin injections today. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol. IVF #2 Nov '118R/8M/4F 3dt x2 - chemical, IVF #4 Jan '13 BFN 11R/6M/6F 5dt x2 - BFN, IVF #5 July '13 16R/10M/10F 5dt x2 + 1 frostie. Estrogen Primed Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol The pretreatment phase is a natural cycle in which estrogen is given for 7 days a week after ovulation. ?? Only recently. Has anyone done the flare protocol and had success? With IVF#2, I got 16 eggs, 15 of which were mature. A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. November IVF Protocol - DOR / LOW AMH / +40. Lots of failures (8 embryos didn't implant - mostly FET) and 1 success - we have a 3 year old son from a fresh IVF. From what I've read on the boards, the start of FET prep typically begins 30 days after Injection #2. Best of luck to ya and I hope your next cycle proves 'the one'!!! Stimulation Day 4 Come in for an E2 and LH blood test. My second we moved from an antagonist to a Lupron stop protocol with PICSI and wound up with 8 embryos, 3 of which were PGS normal. EPP gave meFIVE- three CCS normal! I took BCP for 3 weeks. The educational health content on What To Expect is reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts to be up-to-date and in line with the latest evidence-based medical information and accepted health guidelines, including the medically reviewed What to Expect books by Heidi Murkoff. We started our IVF journey in 2014. TTC 2 years. Round Two Result 4/30: Harsh BFN However, that information will still be included in details such as numbers of replies. Anyone have success with this protocol? Called GnRH antagonists, these medications work differently than the GnRH agonists like Lupron. I had 6 unexplained failure FETs. The patient is given twice-weekly injections of estradiol valerate (Delestrogen) for a period of 8 days whereupon COS is initiated using a relatively high dosage FSH- (Follistim, Fostimon, Puregon or Gonal F), which is continued along with daily administration of GnRH antagonist until the "hCG "trigger." 3 failed IUI's Long awaited FET on 9/3. 16 22 I see! Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol. Start Lupron: Start your microdose Lupron 20 units subcutaneous injection twice a day. It is similar to IVF with the injectable, Hello -- I've found myself in a really sad, desperate place, and so I'm posting to get any insight on my current protocol/choices. Thank you. Baby girl born Aug 2013 0000001040 00000 n 0000000960 00000 n My AFC was 7 on day 3. We knew we wanted more kids so we started trying again when he turned one. Besides, I hear regular lupron sucks so I'm grateful I didn't have to do that part. GL! Have you transferred? And any other recommendations on clinics? Where do we go from here? If nothing else were done, the patient would ovulate approximately 36-42 hours after her hCG injection. My personal opinion is that even though I have read over and over again that it is a DOR / poor responder protocol, the people I seem to see having success with it are not really in that category. I am sure of it! EPP with CCRM has been my best cycle yet in regards to embryo quantity and quality! Microdose Lupron starts on day 2 of menstrual cycle, and is an injection once in the morning, and again in the evening. . I'm about to start a ton of supplements my nurse suggested to me. We started our second cycle on Friday (7th). Create an account or log in to participate. Any advice is welcome! Maybe it is too soon for bloating. Estrogen Primed Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol. In summary, ovarian stimulation is a very complex process. Microdose Lupron Flare Protocol. Im currently doing vaginal Estrace (twice a day), vaginal viagra (four times a day), 3 estrogen patches all the time, vitamin e, baby aspirin, and I even started estrogen injections twice a wee, I'm having lining issues and wondering I'd anyone else out there has as well and what your solution/protocol was to thicken the lining. 1 Call nurse with cd1 Start Microdose (md) Lupron twice daily and continue to take estradiol stopping on cycle day 10 units md Lupron Estradiol 2mg 10 units md Lupron 16dp5dt. Did one cycle of IVf with 450 of gonal F and then cetrotide and ovidrel. Group Owners uphold the core values of the brand by reporting content that violates the community guidelines. Going with a microdose lupron protocol for my 2nd, starting on 11/30. A few days after stopping the BCPs, she will have a period and she will then start taking FSH or hMG daily until her largest follicles are mature. Hi, I'm 40 did my first IVF in October with an antagonist protocol (AMH 4.86). For those who have PCOS which IVF Protocol was successful for you? What was the quality of your embryos? 0000002680 00000 n Is this normal??? I need some bad-a$$ ladies to battle this with. My RE wants to use a lupron microdose protocol. High FSH. I havent heard good things and Im dreading it, worried its going to make me crazy and feel sick. My dr wants the lining to be between 8-12. I have DOR (My AMH was 0.38 and 0.27 in 2016, but somehow it increased to 1.36 in Jan 2017). The LDL protocol was initiated with late luteal lupron (0.25 mg daily). More about us: Estrogen Priming Microdose Lupron (MDL) *If you receive your period, (cycle day one, the first day of a full flow red) after 5pm, call to speak to a nurse . Sounds like CC.RM is doing EPP Oprah-style. Hi has anyone done a MENOPUR only cycle? Are you sure you want to block this member? I have had 3 failed medicated IUIs, 5 egg retrievals with 3 transfers. Estrogen Primed Antagonist Protocol. Our most common protocol utilizes Lupron as a trigger instead of hCG to mature follicles prior to egg collection. 1. 2005-2023Everyday Health, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. --- EDD 4/5/15, "Everything will be alright in the end. We ve tried PRPs, neupojin, Hello, I just joined and first post. 1 10cell Grade 4, 1 8cell Grade 4. Life is wild just never give up. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. 8 days of stims and I had 1 lead follicle and 2 other measurable ones. 9dp5dt Beta 1 = 344!! . Round Rock, Texas 78681, 5000 Davis Lane, Ste 100 I am 28. :), I'm confused by all the information out there for women over 40. (Not so) Short summary - DH and I have been ttc since May 2015, two early m/c. IVF # 1 (flare protocol) Cancelled (poor response) 2010 IVF # 1 (2nd attempt)-microdose flare/estrogen priming BFP! HB 132 & everything measuring on track. Fraternal girls born Dec 2010 2011 Dec-Natural BFP M/C at 8.5 wks 2012 Dec-Natural BFP . Anyway, I am doing the EPP this round and was curious to hear some of your experiences with it. My little one is a success story from MDL! startxref I think I am most excited that I did NOT have to take bcp's! Even though my eggs were older as I was 37 at the time, versus 35 when I started, we transferred 2 and were successful with a singleton. We retrieved 4 eggs. Others involve newer supplements such as DHEA, and still others involve the use of injectable medications such as growth hormone. My first retrieval was an antagonist protocol, and we only got one poor quality embryo (3CB). Use of this site is subject to our terms of use and privacy policy. me 33/DH 36ttc since 10/2008; d/x: mild MFI, stageII endo~~PAIF/SAIF Welcome~~11 IUIs = 1 m/c (7w4d)IVF#1 January 2012 BFN, FET #1 April 2012 BFNSurprise BFP October 2012 m/c (7w), Surprise BFP April 2013 m/c (6w4d)IVF #2: July 2013, ET 1 embryo 7/18, beta 1 @ 14dp3dt - 757, beta 2 @ 16dp3dt - 1762U/S 1 @ 6w4d = 1 little frogger with HB of 118, U/S 2 @ 7w3d measuring right on track with HB of 160Stick Frogger Stick! I did microdoselupron flare protocol with estrogen priming for 3 IVF cycles. Only one embryo ever implanted (first cycle) and it resulted in a MMC. Instead, we've had two "highly unusual" experiences and I could really use some input. :) But after my horrible #2 cycle, knowing I really would probably only do one more I gave it all I had for three-four months. 3DT. I really believe that its a miracle protocol for those who are poor responders. 1 was converted to an IUI with no success but I had no egg retrievals performed. Please whitelist our site to get all the best deals and offers from our partners. 8 fertilized w/ IC, Im about to do a frozen embryo transfer but I have very thin uterine lining. This treatment protocol is known as a "microdose flare." The initial injections of Lupron stimulate the pituitary gland to secrete its own natural FSH and LH (aka a flare), in addition to the FSH and LH you get from the other two injectable fertility medications. ?Put back 2 day 5 embryos and now I am here. I badly want to be a mom. 07/23 - Injection #1 Right now, they are doing an antagonistic approach. I did my first IVF at 39 got 3 embryos with one pgta normal. Isn't that kind of an aggressive protocol for someone with day 3 numbers like that? Dr. C apologized for the fucking nightmare of a cancelled cycle, and implied that maybe the other doctor we were seeing in the practice should have put the breaks on way before day 10 because there was LITERALLY NO RESPONSE. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I am a little concerned that I am supposed to take 300 iu's of Gonal-F. I did lupron stop protocol for IVF#1, but I was still oversuppressed. HiI'm new. Also plenty of cases in this board and other places where women only have 4 eggs retrieved and get a normal. We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. HOORAY. Stage IV Endo. Estrogen primed microdose lupron flare protocol karela After 5-6 days of stimulation an antagonist is added to prevent ovulation until the day of. Thin Lining - stim protocol - suggestions? Only thing I can pinpoint is age. IVF 1 - on BCP protocol. Thanks!! I stimmed for like 15 days, got 5 eggs, 3 fert with icsi, all disintegrated basically, no blasts. I did lupron stop protocol for IVF#1, but I was still oversuppressed. The use of Lupron has effectively eliminated the risk of OHSS . Some background on our situation: fast or irregular breathing. 150 iu follistim and 75 iu menopure didn't work either. My husband doesn't even want donor eggs, so.donor eggs.might.not be an option for now. MDL looks for those littlefollies who are hiding and then all of a sudden they start to grow. In the regular IVF protocol, Lupron and BCP are used for at least 2 weeks before ovarian stimulation. I have DOR (My AMH was 0.38 and 0.27 in 2016, but somehow it increased to 1.36 in Jan 2017). As access age, Tarlatzis BC. Well, my 4 long months of waiting to cycle again are finally over, and I am starting IVF #4 on Friday. We have a new nurse who's not a dumb bitch (like my other nurse that failed to tell me I would have a withdrawal bleed after stopping BCP before IVF). New Braunfels, TX 78130, 18707 Hardy Oak Blvd, Ste. Had 20 eggs retrieved. Thank you! EPP Antagonist was not a good protocol for me. Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. So if it's not alright, it is not yet the end. So, we concluded that the microdose flare-up protocol may have a better outcome in poor-responder patients. I have no input on EPP but I am so excited you're starting up!!! I see a lot of people have taken Lupron. 1) focus on the quality (not quantity) of eggs. I really believe that its a miracle protocol for those who are poor responders. I am currently waiting on my period. FET. So, yes, you can have better results the second time around and I really hope thats true for you! We started IVF due to MFI, i did a long lupron short stim cycle last month and it failed due to being a poor responder. I have a consult with my doctor today. Only got 1 mature egg and embryothat didnt make it. My doctor refunded some costs and wants me to try again. I am excited to read all the success stories. 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