F34 Also after several drives and lower temperatures the fault disappeared. What me be causing this? Hello question I have 428xi n26 sulev f32 and I was looking at my key reader report and where it says Software version/updates section: I-level current integration level of vehicle F020-19-07-539. The boost control fault is caused by the vanos fault,,,you need to check into the the vanos faults to see whats going on. E84 and E89 Hi, I have N20 with rough idle. I went to the shop today to see what codes it was and i got a code: P13C0. I appreciate your help. Stop and starting the car there is no difference. 3: 130304 VANOS (Variable camshaft timing) exhaust: control fault, camshaft stuck F010-13-07-506 for the F10 Also how does a dealerships diagnose if a vehicle is eligible for extended timing chain warranty? Any help would be appreciated SITUATION BMW X3 and X4 Forums | F25 (2011 - 2017) | F26 (2014 - 2017), Second Generation BMW X3 (F25) General Forum, https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/fshaft/HtiBPV3K, https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2053485-8362.pdf. I personally know of one person that had a total loss on their X1 engine in Saskatchewan back in 2016 before BMW Canada acknowledged a widespread issue with the timing chain on the N20. Sorry for the confusion, I understand you have the N20 engine,,,,what Im saying on the N20 engine the vans unit failing is not a common problem like the N51,,,,,on the N20 engine there are no replacement bolts for the vanos unit not like the N51. What is your opinion about the above? I am not sure if it was the wrong filter. Thank you so much for your advice. Yes took off the valve cover 3 times so far. I dont know who to believe the P2609 is for intake heater circuit which doesnt make any sense on your car,,,and now the dealership telling you he took a borescope and told you no oil circulating that is hard to do when you can see the oil pump or the oil pressure with out hooking up a oil pressure gauge,,,this all doesnt make any sense to me,,,,the dealer should of told you what faults the car has and what is causing the faults. My rule if its not broken dont fix it,,,,dont take the solenoids apart ok,,,,the turbo boost fault was related to the vanos faults. to model implausibly too high . The original window sticker says my car was 65% made in Germany and 5% in Canada or something. Turn the ignition on. Sorry there are no replacement bolts for the N20 vanes unit that I know of,,,,,yes they are aluminum,,,the N20 and N26 vanes unit are not common to break not like the older one on N51 and N52, No, no When retrieving BMW check engine light codes with an OBD II scan tool, proceed as follows: 1. The timing was checked several times after installing the new chain. The car has 176,000 kilometers or roughly 110,000 miles. code:131501 VANOS, intake, cold start: not controllable. Is there a or way trick to clear the code without seeing a mechanic or using a code reader?ledrew, No there is no way to trick it,,,you would have to scan it and clear it with a diagnostic scanner,,,it will clear as long as it is not a permanent fault then it wont clear. BMW like to keep some things to them selfs,,,,they dont want to release any information if they dont have to. Labor: 1.0. Code 131501 returned. But when I try to test VANOS data via ISTA it gives no data, only 0. Today I drove it 20 miles to several stores and it worked fine. Nope,,,,its up to the dealership to make the call for BMW if they will fix the timing chain issue on your car under the TSB. One other odd problem during this time was the oil level test did not work. The timing chain & guides are bathed in engine oil, not fuel. 131501 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Non-adjustable 131808 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Position not reached . (not including CAS) Dealer wants almost 300 euro to check the timing chain. F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34: I learned that if you touch the neg and positive battery cable together while the battery is disconnected it clears the light. PROCEDURE I havent been sleeping well. 131401 Intermittent VANOS (variable cam shaft timing) exhaust cold start not controllable I say bad engineering or a BMW scam? With the VANOS solenoids removed, the spring loaded VANOS spool valve moved in and out easily. Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: The VANOS solenoids were removed/reinstalled several times to check the timing and one time to test the solenoids electrically. Problem is, mine arent locked. Even if the engine is warm it still gives these same fault codes. The intake cam had the following desired/actual degrees: 0/-8, -20/-20, -10.4/-10, -20/-20 and -10.4/-10. Or anything else you have come across? The details of the settlement if approved by court will extend timing chain and oil pump drive chain to 8 years/100000 miles(which ever comes first). https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158. Yes that crack in the timing chain guide should be enough to replace the timing chain and guide rails,,,,the way we decide if the car is covered is by whine noise,rattle noise,broken pieces of timing chain guide,,,how before we get the extended warranty that is hard to say,,,it all depends on the legal side of the lawsuit Im sorry to say. I have ISTA-D and scared the following codes. Ive enjoyed your blog and I hope you will start posting again. Code 130308 VANOS Exhaust Control fault position reached Reset codes and adaptations without increment wheel. Hello again, hope you having great day!! Coul it be timming change or leak some where? One last question about dirty oil. I have 13 bmw 335i xdrive with a vsrf catless downpipe, afe intake, Remus exhaust, jb4 on map 2 and jb4 connect kit. Example: 180101 or 1B9308 or 30FF Enter fault code Emissions Standard Hi Im planning to buy a second hand 2015 BMW X3 xDrive 28i (F25) and its about 65000 miles now. I have done my timing chain after finish car starts up runs but would not idle until cel come on. 131401 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Non-adjustable Note that the desired angle was constant. Required fields are marked *. The production date of the car was 2015-11-17. BMW says I caused engine cease. and it seems like they are about to settle this case on 9/2/2020. 131501 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Non-adjustable And yes the crank wouldnt rotate after being inserted. How do you check the oil pressure? Do you know if the new Vanos assemblies comes with the upgraded bolts or do I still need to change out the 4 Vanos Gear bolts on a new assembly? Come join the discussion about Bimmerfest events, production numbers, programming, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Hi. To determine if any applicable Federal, State or BMW Emissions Warranty coverage applies prior Hello there. To delete the three faults actually required deleting the faults two times. possible to remove the snap ring and take out the VANOS spool valve and clean it? Ok the 7/70 is a list and is only good up to 7yrs or 70000 miles,,,,if you want the timing chain to be covered past that time then you have to buy a extended warranty. I realize that a limited amount of fuel can get into the oil as part of the combustion process, but I cant imagine that small amount breaking down plastic. It all depends are your production date of your car,,,you can also tell the dealer about this bulletin. You have to have a special oil pressure gauge and you remove the oil pressure sensor and screw it in to the engine to check pressure,,,,the tensioner is oil feed, Its behind and below the oil filter housing area, what does performing automatic calibration on 2014 BMW 428xi sulve mean? Hi greatings from Norway i have also a Bmw 320i GT-xdrive with 97k-km i dont hear any winning on the chain.I dont find in your list f34 320i Gt from 07.2013 that means that is not afected or just is not on the list i called allso BMW-and they said that my car is not on the extendet waranty list.Im verry stresed with this timming chain issue every time when i go on the car i listen to the engine is like ridding a time bomb.I am paning to change the timming chain at 150k-km even if is not making the noise.And whi there so many 328i afected and 320i not does it matter if mine is a xdrive?does the chain is more under load fi the care is x-drive? also by any chance would you know the torque specs for this bolts? The engine was idling when it happened. JavaScript is disabled. Any comments/tips on both, car only has 49k miles. Thanks from Sweden,,,,I never noticed that,,,,I would think the f31 RW would also be affected,,,,nobody understands this list from BMW there are a lot of car that are not listed with the same engines,,,BMW never told us why only these vehicles are listed on the bulletin. Andreas first and foremost thank you for sharing your knowledge. Neither the VANOS units nor the solenoids have been replaced. F020-13-07-506 for the F3x Please help! Just to be clear, there are two different parts of the VANOS solenoids on the N20. If that helps you with anything! It is really a shame that BMW does not communicate on the subject, especially since here in Europe the problem is not repeated while in the United States it seems widespread. Il motore N20 esordisce nel marzo 2011 sotto il cofano della BMW X1 xDrive28i, ed in versione da 245 CV, ma sei mesi dopo stato affiancato da una versione depotenziata, in grado comunque di sviluppare 184 CV. But one of the passages might have had some trash in it. They also got me up to speed on the known timing chain issues, extended 7yr/70,000 mile extended warranty and class action lawsuit stuff. for this problem there is a software update available. No turnover on start at all. Having the same. Since its not on the list, does this mean this timing chain guide failure is highly unlikely? Previous posts of timing chain upgrade explains my experience. All wiring lines are good. I bought a used 2012 528i with 109k miles about 4 months ago. The actual angle also varied as in the previous test but on average was nearly equal to the desired angle. He discovered it was the engine to chassis ground strap. The car has lost complete power and now I the drive train malfunction light on, engine light on, low oil pressure light on. Bringing the BMW community together. Should I worry about the timing chain issue? document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Opened oil pan and checked pick up screen. SI B12 15 13 I checked the timing chain, it looks fine. Did this on the intake side. I just can't find a procedure on removing the valve cover and locking down the cams. If so, can I buy the warranty for the used car now? 2D57 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Position not reached Timing is performed by the timing chain. Changed the solenoid valves. No car manufacturer is going to tell you the problems with their car,,,they are just worried about the sale of that car,,,,not what is wrong with that car. https://youtu.be/Frj0a82XfDo, He did not notice any whining- but do you hear whining in this second video? I manually crank engine over few time but after start it always goes retarded on exhaust cam shaft. Yes go to the dealership and tell them about the issue and the bulletin. My service guy called and told me to sell the car immediately because oil wasnt circulating through the engine and eventually it would seize. Connect scan tool to the 16-pin data link connector (DLC) located underneath the steering column. To my shame, I am not sure how to post video in your blog. Yes you can check the oil pressure,,,also when the mechanic performed the timing chain repairs the oil pan was off and hopefully he checked the oil pump screen for and debris and cleaned it out. 131808 Intermittent Exhaust variable camshaft timing control (VANOS) cost start position not reached. If I reach my finger in through oil filler cap with the engine off and cold, is it normal for there to be some slack in the timing chain on an N20? Changed the exhaust VANOS. Covered under the terms of the BMW New Car/SAV Limited Warranty or the BMW Certified Pre- 2012 bmw 528xi n20 replaced timing chain, guide and crank 2012 bmw 528xi n20 replaced timing chain, guide and crank sprocket. I own a 2015 X1 with a manufacture date of April 2014. cover and expose some wires and by moving around stuff they was rubbing together and i had the battery connect at that time too.need some help please thank in advance, Ok,,,,you said you smell gas and black smoke out of the exhaust, and you have wiring harness damage to Dinan piggy back,,,I would think this is your problem the harness is damaged and can be causing your problem with the fuel injectors dumping to much fuel into the engine,,,you can remove the spark plugs and see if they are fuel soaked to verify this problem,,,,I dont know if you can remove the Dinan piggy back and put it back to stock.,,,I hope this helps, Update on my car was other human error wrong timing was locking the camshaft with lobs facing down, i correct it and veh stated up right away..THANKS for taking time to assess me. Engine also has forged crankshaft with 4 counterweights that is installed with shift. So now I have one BMW expert telling me its loose and should be taken care of by the dealership, and the dealership is telling me everything is good to go, no problems. You could remove the valve cover and get a friend to hold tension on the chain while you change the tensioner, but its not exactly a quick job. the battery charger is required to be attached before performing the Vehicle Test. Please note the displayed battery voltage reading in the repair order comments section. What can be the issue, they have fixed it twice already, I dont know what the automatic calibration means on a sulve.,,,on this P3195 code that isnt a factory code so I dont know what it means,,,you said BMW fixed the radiator what did they do to the radiator,,,,did they replace it,,,,you could have a t-stat issue causing a temperature problem with the radiator,,,or a water pump issue,,,,I need BMW codes,,, not P codes. E89 2D60 VANOS, exhaust, control fault, camshaft jammed As many have said before, thank you for your very valuable insights and information. 61 00 006 WT Performing vehicle diagnosis test E89X-13 -11-505 for the E84 and E89 Cost for the strap $7.49. Hello did you ever resolve that issue? Is it possible to remove the snap ring and take out the VANOS spool valve, spring and check ball for cleaning with the VANOS unit in the engine? How do I approach the dealer saying I hear a noise and whatnot for them to fix it while it is still under warranty? Nic. The year of 2012 was a year of impending upgrades in . Reprogram the vehicle ISTA/P 2.50.4 or higher. Here the vehicle was driven only at SP98. I bought an x3 28ix build on 07/2015, model 2016 with 124000km. 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