Muslin, fka Dee Holmes: Driscolls board is down to him as President and director, Jimmy Evans and Randall Taylor (who I believe is an attorney). Shame on you. but ultimately it means people are brainwashed into being acquiescent, passive, accommodating, maintaining their silence. What will it take to make him accountable for at least the dollars, which should be somewhat trackable? As Law Prof noted, JMac is not your usual run-of-the-mill preacher he had an international stage he had thousands of followers he failed you, HBC, and the church at large he has disqualified himself from ministry. Trust me, youre not. He promised never to leave me, Jesus said that you cannot serve both Him and Mammon. It sounds more like men puffing up their status among the brothers . Noevangelical: Lowlandseer, Amy Moore: execs like CFO Fred Adams and COO Scott Milholland going into church consulting are the most dangerous. to take stock in ones view, and have confidence in it, is personal responsibility. The beat goes on until Jesus returns. Didnt Dallas or is there another Jenkins son? He already gets $500K tax free per year in deferred comp, plus reportedly around $200K tax free in parsonage allowance. Literally 15,000 people still attend Willow Campuses every single week, and by attending, they are absolutely saying this. Also such leaders do have authority (God-given). We do use the facility a lot during the week and make it available for local schools to use. No more indulgences. In 2012, after several decades of developing the worship culture at Harvest, the Vertical Church Band was born. It is not elaborate but adequate for what we seek to do for Gods Kingdom. this time facilatated by the internet, just like the last one was with the printing press.. Well, age doesnt always equal wisdom, but it helps! I suppose those are the sort of preachers Jesus had in mind when He said: You guys are tempting me to mount my soap box! In September of 2012, we experienced another provision of God, in the form of the Scottish Rite Cathedrala historical landmark we reclaimed for the gospel in the heart of Chicagos Gold Coastwhich became the Chicago Cathedral Campus. Pastor showed the torture and crucifixion scene to the whole church. Also, we must note who it is that the elders have authority over. We will note however, that within the church, the world elder is not only a reference to age, but also a position or office of the church. There are other places for the truly repentant to serve in the church. Same thing I guess. You cant change that. Truly hope you get peace and joy soon. Yet with their plausible and attractive arguments they deceive those who are too simple-hearted to see through them (Romans 16:17). What are sheep to do? For those who regularly read this blog, question with critical thinking, demand proof for claims made, and hold those posting and commenting to the same standards being written about. Max: Friend: What bothers me about the megas is not just the bad theology and oppression, but the sheer size. so, if as Max says, if we do not get senile, or too bitter or cynical, our life experinces can at least put current disasters in perspective. Guys like you have no fear of God, and this is how this mess happened in the first place. To make up for their very tiny, um sense of self-esteem. Is there a foolproof system that cant be gamed? They began by gathering in an unused TV studio. Im holding out hope that my faith in God will survive, but truth be told, some days that seems uncertain as well (and save yourself the time writing me about how my faith must not have been that deep if indeed Im struggling with God and Jesus).