BG was very well disguised that day with a white scarf covering the lower half of his face. If you met me, you would laugh at them for saying that. I think that the, "Down the hill," portion is distorted and that's why it sounds like an older man. to find the killer or team of killers. Ive followed your articles over the past four years and find your insight quite interesting! I am not revealing the name of the main suspect here and will only refer to him as Mr. X. I also request all commenters to also refer to him as Mr. X. I do this as a simple measure to try to protect his identity. Mr. X was employed by Indiana Packers around 2011 or 2012. Not quite sainthood, but getting there. We regard Leaker as credible, but we now demand sources beyond his level to be considered probative. DP's appearance is a cross between the two sketches. The boots appear to be Indiana Packers boots. A handgun, in order to do ballistics tests on it. Important friendships: Very casual friend of Mike Patty, father of one of the girl victims. Im actually a rather shy, introverted, cautious, and extremely polite person who is terrified of making people mad, getting called creepy, offending people, etc. However, the nature of these videos, means I rely on news outlets, speculations of investigators, journalists and family members. I may have questions, but that would be the extent.. Delphi police and the prosecutor's office said a public court hearing will be set to determine if the documents, including the affidavit in the case, will remain under seal. Clothing soaked in blood, seen and unseen. The idea that a gag order was issued on this truck is an unconfirmed rumor. Occupation: Handicrafter making wooden signs. Wait so the part about him recording the crime is some search warrant given to someone where the cops wanted to check media files? Number 5 was told to JM, an excellent local sleuth, and then to us by an Indiana detective who works in Narcotics based on crime scene photos he had seen. Mr. X did not have PIV sex with either girl. We reported them one year before it came out in the media that they were all true. Hence, none of his DNA from the forest around the girls is usable. I get the impression that LE thought that this officer was lying and were trying to offer him some protection. They just accept everyone as long as you say youre straight. It doesnt seem like a normal person would stay at that location for all that time. I now think that in the audio of BG's voice, that the word, "Guys," sounds like a young man and the word itself is more commonly used by younger people. Amazing work! You dont have to join. Both girls were posed with their legs spread wide in a sexual posing. I heard that at the 2019 conference, she burst into tears. Why on Earth would the killer have a copy of an audio file from Libbys phone! Thats the price you pay to live in a free society. I have one more message for you. Even after the girls were recovered, Mr. X stayed around through all of the media and police hubbub for the next eight hours, from 12:30 PM to 8:30 PM, so his truck was out at the crime scene for 26 full hours, with Mr X presumably with it the entire time. Weve been proven correct on eight different things that only the police could have known. Thats a GoPro on BGs waist and he filmed his crime. I never knew what evidence anyone had against this guy except, He kills chicks! ( WXIN) A 2017 search warrant in connection with the Delphi, Indiana killings of Abby Williams and Libby German has been shared with the public. Mr. Xs wife, his daughter, and Becky Patty are now putting out a story that Mr. X never lost his keys in the first place. A podcast called The Murder Sheet talked to another woman who said her interactions with Kline started when she was only 12 years old. Jerseyperson111 = Skip Jansen = Ok Cricket (new)? Active litigation means that discovery is available. So yeah, if you type in Mr Xs real govt registered name into the old YT, you get a handful of cryptic videos, slideshows with creepy music typical for this sort of thing. No, POI'S will be discussed tonight. Because of the number of people saying this rumor is true, it goes into the likely category. He will crack soon. The one through line in this debate is everyone has asked skip what his credentials are and consistently refuses, then says you can verify this from my Reddit posts - so basically the bar now set by TGC for expert guests is now Reddittor ? *******If you have information on this case or know who Bridge Guy is, or have had interaction with the anthony_shots profile please contact law enforcement. - would this mean that Qs DNA could be used to see if it is a familial match to bridge guy? C'mon now. Good question Jess. Instead they were penetrated with inanimate objects, which, last time I checked, do not cause pregnancy. Fondled similarly to Libby. I am sure the person you and Mr. Lindsay are speculating who BG is, is spot on. Keep at it, guys! I get it. We do indeed have documents from the case. Hard to believe that there are two DPs and two QPs in such a small area. He stayed to guard his truck. This just doesnt bode well for him, I mean ESPECIALLY if you consider that he asked to search the Logan property and came up empty-handed. Some claims are listed as unverified. We do not have a copy of that gag order, but we were told that one had been issued by the courts. I think he already knew that they would be there. It is important to note that you are under no obligation to tell the police anything. Earlier today, fake DP posted those same newspaper articles and said "someone" sent them to him. The crime occurred on February 13, or 2/13. @Mark Q (Pasadena)- There was a knife sticking out of the log next to one girls head. Possibly works with kids. I definitely think that he was passed info inadvertently. I am creating a special article about this to link to in order to deal with the constant hate comments in this regard so I dont have to keep going over this stuff in every update. We think the girl knew she was pregnant. This is part of what they thought was being said, yes. Here is the link, https://youtu.be/_WXlt_xXD1U. At least three women have told News 8 that they received disturbing messages from either the anthony_shots profile or the personal account of Kegan Kline. Indiana State Police annou You said in your blog that Mr. X was friends with Ron Logan. By the way, whats a legitimate journalist? Whats a illegitimate journalist? Theres no such thing as either. Residence at time of crime: Delphi, Indiana since 1984. He prefers whiskey, its his drink of choice and hes off without it. Abby may have been naked below the waist. Were their clothes found with the bodies at the crime scene? Our error rate at the moment is probably under 50% and quite possibly lower, even much lower. $20/lifetime membership. Its not clear how? That makes no sense. Theyve had video and audio of the guy from the beginning and its been too long without an arrest. Welcome to the site! I'm being very careful in applying that theory to what is available, but it has made sense of the two sketches being so different. Just another character who got caught with CP. We are very worried that the police may be trying to pin this crime on Kegan and Tony Kline and we know neither one is involved. Some connection with Libby via geocaching. The crime was committed in February 13 or 2/13. Have you wrote about what the investigators talked to RL about? Kline admitted to state and federal agents that he opened the account just 12 days after the murders of Abigail Abby Williams and Liberty Libby German near Delphi in February 2017. But now we have an excellent regular LE source close to the investigation giving us regular updates, the best LE source weve ever had. Henceforth, he will be known as LE Source A. About eight days after the murders, this man shoots and kills his 16 year old live-in girlfriend while allegedly cleaning his firearm. They have enough suggestive evidence to make them think he did it, but if you look a the nature of their actual evidence, its awfully thin. Thats because they havent been told shit. There is a lot of controversy about that but it does appear that you can hear on the audio, Is that creepy guy still following us?. While Indiana State Police Sgt. How did BG get across that knee-high stream in the middle of winter without nearly getting hypothermia and needing a change of clothes? So Skip Jansen and DGo are different people that just happen to share the same "suspect" and theories? Better to let your officers go home for a few hours so theyd be ready for work the next morning. Are you all not seeing this when you scroll down? He is happy to do so. including this suspect and those related/associated with him, how many people know that there's something fishy (e.g. If so, this proves that this crime was planned nearly down to the minute. 43 sec is probably the time they have of the man on the girls phone recording. But we have said many of the same things, which may be confirmation of my visions in a way. I found your article very interesting and thought provoking. Why dont you do a show on our theories. Shop eBooks and audiobooks at Rakuten Kobo. Im limited in my sleuthing skills. Hes connected to a local sex offender in the area (a friend, or family membercousin?). He saved society a lot of money by eating a bullet, freeing up some fresh air and making the world the tiniest bit of a better place. No one else reacted that way. Did the girls have wet clothes where they were found? The judicial system likes to make sure that they get it right, if only to protect the due process rights of the accused. So, DP could be deposed. I dont know why that stood out to me. Make @ Skip, Would love to join the private group. The next day, their bodies were found nearby. Hindsight is 20-20 and this case might have been the one case out out of a million that might have borne fruit had they continued searching. I dont know about you, but when I go to a nearby town, I dont generally take my cellphone and throw it in a bunch of weeds for the five hours that I was gone, coming back to my home hours later to retrieve it from the weeds. They have their own sources. I thought there was more to this blog. Garrett Kirts: Local man, all around run of the mill bad person. Expunged just means taken out of public records. This is getting ridiculous. If anyone has arguments for or against dp please direct message me info! There is a main suspect who has been the main suspect for a very long time. They just think its a sin that needs to be overcome. There are unconfirmed rumors Mr. Xs truck was towed after his wife never came to bring the car keys and that Mr. Xs truck was never searched by police. See? I am sure he was asked. Most of the rest are not bad people, but they are showboats, loudmouths, and boasters with egos the size of small planets. So, to end my novel, I agree with you. Obwohl das organisierte Verbrecherthum" Footnote 2 bereits 1877 bei der Beratung zur Strafprozessordnung Erwhnung fand und die sogenannten Ringvereine ber mehrere Jahrzehnte fester Bestandteil der Gesellschaft waren, die nach heutigem Verstndnis Kriterien Organisierter Kriminalitt erfllen, setzte der Diskurs ber derartige Zusammenschlsse erst in den 1970er-Jahren in . We believe this because this is what we were told. I will. Furthermore, almost nothing of consequence is being said, and it reminds you of a night with your friends drinking, and no one says one thing of importance for hours. Nevertheless, as you can see above, three things that we spotted in the crime scene photos have been verified by independent sources in the search party, so the fact that these are crime scene photos is now proven. He was the right age, but he doesnt look like BG. I long held that Evansdale and Delphi were connected due to the inversely related murder dates and MOAs. At least some people like me. "You want to know what we know one day you will.". His favorite color is green: like the woods, like the loot. Though she cannot comment on this investigation since its ongoing, she MAY be able to offer clues. If the sketch depicting an older suspect truly came from DP attempting to misdirect the investigation, it's very interesting that it bears such a strong resemblance to his father. . not sure I agree . If its who I think it is, you can tell her I said that. How do I do this? In my option the perp is home grown. Thats what we want to talk to him about when our investigators go out there again. I love you and the information youre releasing! Its buried under settlement and underbrush. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 1 /// 509 Part 1 of 3 www.TrueCrimeGarage.com Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered . R/LibbyandAbby does allow rumors and speculations, so at least they get some good posts and posters, while the overall mood is still a downer. And he has an accomplice, a much younger man. Paul Etter: A 55 year old local man of many interests. You learn which rumors have promise and which have not panned out. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Was he set up to take the fall? Suspect arrives before 2pm and cheats on his girlfriend in the car and then goes walking across the bridge with her and into the trails. In the Delphi Murders: 2/13: The Delphi Murders were committed on February 13, 2017. Can you spell out the name? Instead pay attention to this new sketch, some kid. The only way they could know this is if the rumors about BG sending photos or video of the crime to Abbys phone after the crime occurred are true. Suspect: Ok, you got me. when you send someone a file, you retain a copy for yourself. Good job though, because you confirm much of what Ive seen. Tragedy struck the small town of Delphi, Indiana on , when Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were murdered on a hiking trail. Same spelling as well. Allen, a 50-year-old Delphi man, was arrested last month and charged with two counts of murder for the Feb. 2017 killings. Perhaps a parent(s) was involved particularity in the cover up especially since the killer was inexperienced at covering their tracks. Number 6, an extremely controversial statement, was told to JM and then to us by a sheriff in a nearby county. How do you join and can you join as a European? He killed at least five people, specializing in young women. There is a suspected child killer in the Bay Area who is responsible for 5-10 child murders. But how could they possibly know this? We have 250 members in our group. I am friends with one of the parents and to my knowledge, no one has been told if this was sexual or not, only people have speculated. They say they want to preserve the integrity of the investigation. 2-13 again. You just dont know what a person is capable of. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, This is a community where we can speak openly about the Murders of Libby and Abby in Delphi, IN, Press J to jump to the feed. This case ranks with WM3 to me. Interesting. He hunted deer on RLs land all the time. Specifically, we are getting much of the the following information straight from the cops themselves. His brother looks very much like him (for example! It was also asked How did BG get across that knee-high stream in the middle of winter without nearly getting hypothermia? The girls would have also been subject to hypothermia?? Yes. I know many others will agree that Skip has helped connect a lot of dots for many of us; his comments are always thought provoking and insightful. Any info on what he would post about when he was active? Sorry, Ive been a bit down lately. He is one of the first and only witnesses in this case!!. I almost feel as though LE doesnt want to solve this crime, and that scares me. No, I wasnt aware that she existed. I found who mr. X is. We know he had binoculars with him and he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman who had spotted them with binoculars. So the stellar members of LE have RL arrested and sent to jail all the while knowing he couldnt have committed this crime but doing NOTHING to stop the entire community from believing, first, that RL was a main suspect in the case,, and second, believing that he was in jail because he was a suspect! FSG knew everyone in town. Im the one who did it. I am having trouble reconciling something.. if Mr X is who I think he is, you state that he graduated in 1984 but I am finding by looking at the Delphi yearbooks online, that he graduated in 1986? There was an early raid on the Indiana Packers plant in Delphi that was done by LE. One last side note.. Nic stated in the podcast that Indiana collects DNA for all individuals convicted of a felony but it's actually anyone arrested for a felony, which is a much lower threshold. I didnt mean to imply that, sorry. The document, obtained by "Murder Sheet Podcast," was provided to NewsNation affiliate WXIN on Tuesday. The document states, for no apparent reason, that the girls were both abducted at 2:13 PM. Can you email me with her name, please? Update: We can now state that one of these documents is a search warrant, specifically for the Maxwell home. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. And with the evidence they currently have, they havent proven it. Come on, people. Some of this confusion is probably natural, since the the whole B family has gone underground. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 1 /// 509 Part 1 of 3 www.TrueCrimeGarage.com Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. Hes afraid hes going to be framed with these murders, a reasonable fear. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 1 /// 509. You claim he works at Indiana Packers then say his profession is woodworking. Delphi Murders - Live - Discussion with Skip Jansen and Fig. Weird, because on my feed his post shows up just 4 or 5 posts after this one, along with all 120 comments, including some made in the last few minutes. Would be interesting to know if Garett Kirts was on Ron Logans property that day. The dolls may have been placed there before the crime. We would say it is low. When the Col. and Cpt did their very first episode back at the start the glaring fact shared was that the county has one of the highest sexual offender rates per capita in all of the US of A. His brother looks very much like him (for example! There would have to be some sort of connection to Mr. X for me to suspect him, and I dont see any as of yet other than odd behavior in searching for the girls. Recently moved to a small city nearby, possibly due to the heat of being a suspect in the crime. However, I do not believe it was sexually motivated, but believe theres potential for multiple motives. Of course she did. Im really worried about people bothering or harming this guy and his family. Please email if you do not want to reply here. Thats why all the smoke and mirrors. We believe that this happened in the first place because a photo exists of a truck being towed from the CPS building around February 14. It was dusty and disheveled. I sorta did wonder where he was from 12 to 430ish. Lmao what am I reading here? White scarf covering the lower half of his face. Instant person of interest. These partial DNA samples are useful to LE. Hey I wanted to see what you think on Kirts now with the time thats passed, and lot more evidence published out there (mainly the Open Secrets YouTube channel interviews with Kirts & CM)..& Ed Bounds YouTube channel Crime PursuitBoth have incredible detail with Kirts himself seriously all but admitting to being the Delphi suspect. Similar murder conditions. It said she was coming to deliver the keys. Here are the main things that ALLEGEDLY (no proof guys, just what I received) stood out to me: 1) I got three names, of which, per your instruction, I will not provide here. Good ones and bad ones, perhaps, but theres no such thing as legitimate versus illegitimate. To say these girls had things shoved in them without proof is horrible for their parents. Last week some tweaker who had clearly been up for days on meth, posted non stop on multiple groups, and on his own page, that his father and young son were the killers with zero evidence. Wheres the rest of it? Anyhow on YT one of the titles says former cheerleader. Not that thats necessarily relevant to the case, just that one of your pics above makes more sense now lol. Also there are rumors that the girl left a note explain her pregnancy in a tree in her backyard. Granted, we dont have any evidence that this is true other than Leigh Kerrs statements. I wish I could delete this comment because it made no sense. There is a rumor of a falling out between the two men at some time before the crime. Relationship with younger daughter: Excellent, she is very fond of him. No one knows if he did this crime or not. If he did, its probably because he was getting bashed for no reason the delphimurder sub definitely deleted it though. I guess Im not sure when he graduated. I would like to email this , as it is not particularly relevant to the comments on this page. I want you to know that your comment is no longer there. It makes sense LE's statements in the 2019 press conference to the killer and also that when they asked what he thinks people will think when they find out and that he's hiding in plain sight. The most recent news release came Monday, after News 8 reporting on investigators who acknowledged the delay in Klines arrest. Thats probably your answer. 9) He has killed before. But its definitely him! Then you turned around and basically said we were a bunch of idiots. How would she be a few weeks pregnant by a guy that just raped her? I believe Mr. X is the guy. DELPHI MURDERS Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found dead on Valentine's Day, 2017, a day after they vanished while hiking through the woods of the Historic Delphi trails. 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